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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.diywebmastery.com/about/comment-page-1#comment-683</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 11:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - I could not agree with you more.  I am now now even more confused after Brian Gardner&#039;s recent comments on Ma.tt&#039;s post. See below :

1) Chris Pearson is vilified because he wants to license his stuff, his own way.
2) People start, with Ma.tt&#039;s encouragement to switch to Genesis because it is 100% GPL and in the &quot;spirit of things&quot;.
3) Mark Jaquith states &lt;a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; href=&quot;http://markjaquith.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/why-wordpress-themes-are-derivative-of-wordpress/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in the FAQ section on this page&lt;/a&gt; that &quot;What you could do is offer a theme under a split license. The PHP would be under the GPL, but other static resources could be under some other license.&quot; I don&#039;t want to put words into his mouth, but I believe he and Ma.tt are on the same page.
4) So Chris eventually offers split license.
5) Ma.tt is now totally cheesed off because split isn&#039;t good enough (not sure why he does the Syn.Thesis post about Thesis and not about Headway though . . .)
6) Genesis owner, Brian Gardner states publicly that its not slimy to give his stuff away for free, because the GPL allows it, however goes onto say this.  &quot;... they want to use countless hours of our hard work to fill their pockets. While that is allowed under the GPL, it’s clearly IMO not the “spirit”&quot;.

Conclusion I draw from all that is the GPL embodies something that  isn&#039;t in the spirit of the GPL.  And you know what else? The GPL is inelegant, like a piece of badly written code. It should read something like this. 

&quot;If you build anything on Wordpress it has to be GPL too. You can give your work away or charge for it - it&#039;s up to you. The GPL allows you to do both. The GPL also allows anyone who gets a copy of your code to give it away or sell it to others. However rather than admit this is a bit annoying, we&#039;ve coined a phrase called &#039;the spirit of things&#039;. When someone takes your work and gives it away as is perfectly reasonable under the GPL, you can throw a sort of moral accusation at them by pointing out that they are not partaking in the &#039;spirit of things&#039;. We recommend using the &#039;spirit of things&#039; as many times as possible when fighting your GPL corner. It&#039;s worked for us!&quot;

I don&#039;t see how you can say other people&#039;s code can be given away for free or sold in one breath and then get upset if people give it away or sell it.   Let&#039;s face it, the GPL works for Brian and good luck to him - I too will become a Genesis customer. But he&#039;s not particularly comfortable with it is he? Not based on what he said.  An exercise in double-think, if ever there was one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; I could not agree with you more.  I am now now even more confused after Brian Gardner&#8217;s recent comments on Ma.tt&#8217;s post. See below :</p>
<p>1) Chris Pearson is vilified because he wants to license his stuff, his own way.<br />
2) People start, with Ma.tt&#8217;s encouragement to switch to Genesis because it is 100% GPL and in the &#8220;spirit of things&#8221;.<br />
3) Mark Jaquith states <a rel="nofollow" href="http://markjaquith.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/why-wordpress-themes-are-derivative-of-wordpress/" rel="nofollow">in the FAQ section on this page</a> that &#8220;What you could do is offer a theme under a split license. The PHP would be under the GPL, but other static resources could be under some other license.&#8221; I don&#8217;t want to put words into his mouth, but I believe he and Ma.tt are on the same page.<br />
4) So Chris eventually offers split license.<br />
5) Ma.tt is now totally cheesed off because split isn&#8217;t good enough (not sure why he does the Syn.Thesis post about Thesis and not about Headway though . . .)<br />
6) Genesis owner, Brian Gardner states publicly that its not slimy to give his stuff away for free, because the GPL allows it, however goes onto say this.  &#8220;&#8230; they want to use countless hours of our hard work to fill their pockets. While that is allowed under the GPL, it’s clearly IMO not the “spirit”&#8221;.</p>
<p>Conclusion I draw from all that is the GPL embodies something that  isn&#8217;t in the spirit of the GPL.  And you know what else? The GPL is inelegant, like a piece of badly written code. It should read something like this. </p>
<p>&#8220;If you build anything on WordPress it has to be GPL too. You can give your work away or charge for it &#8211; it&#8217;s up to you. The GPL allows you to do both. The GPL also allows anyone who gets a copy of your code to give it away or sell it to others. However rather than admit this is a bit annoying, we&#8217;ve coined a phrase called &#8216;the spirit of things&#8217;. When someone takes your work and gives it away as is perfectly reasonable under the GPL, you can throw a sort of moral accusation at them by pointing out that they are not partaking in the &#8216;spirit of things&#8217;. We recommend using the &#8216;spirit of things&#8217; as many times as possible when fighting your GPL corner. It&#8217;s worked for us!&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how you can say other people&#8217;s code can be given away for free or sold in one breath and then get upset if people give it away or sell it.   Let&#8217;s face it, the GPL works for Brian and good luck to him &#8211; I too will become a Genesis customer. But he&#8217;s not particularly comfortable with it is he? Not based on what he said.  An exercise in double-think, if ever there was one.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Doolin</title>
		<link>http://www.diywebmastery.com/about/comment-page-1#comment-682</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Doolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like ma.tt closed comments, I was going to come in with some support: GPL is pretty hard to work with as a solo shop.  Works really well when programming in the corporate arena, won&#039;t lose code changing jobs. 

Having given away code for 10 years with nothing coming back, I&#039;m just a little disenchanted with the notion of free anything at the moment.  The cost of free is pretty high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like ma.tt closed comments, I was going to come in with some support: GPL is pretty hard to work with as a solo shop.  Works really well when programming in the corporate arena, won&#8217;t lose code changing jobs. </p>
<p>Having given away code for 10 years with nothing coming back, I&#8217;m just a little disenchanted with the notion of free anything at the moment.  The cost of free is pretty high.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.diywebmastery.com/about/comment-page-1#comment-638</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Katie.  I have just submitted another Thesis site to your site - a sub-domain of this one. Every time we develop a tool or Wordpress Plugin we are adding a sub-domain site to this site. That is why this one is styled in black and white. So that the sub-domains can have a colorful logo added.  

See http://slickr-flickr.diywebmastery.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Katie.  I have just submitted another Thesis site to your site &#8211; a sub-domain of this one. Every time we develop a tool or WordPress Plugin we are adding a sub-domain site to this site. That is why this one is styled in black and white. So that the sub-domains can have a colorful logo added.  </p>
<p>See <a href="http://slickr-flickr.diywebmastery.com" rel="nofollow">http://slickr-flickr.diywebmastery.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 22:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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Don&#039;t forget to stop by and rate your site, and please, tell your friends about www.thesisgallery.com.</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t forget to stop by and rate your site, and please, tell your friends about <a href="http://www.thesisgallery.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesisgallery.com</a>.</p>
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